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		<title>Comment on Rule by Fear or by Law? by BuddyL</title>
		<link>http://rebtl.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/rule-by-fear-or-by-law/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>BuddyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time and time and time and time again I have heard about these concentrations camps being built, and these shackled railcars, but no one ever comes up with any facts to back them up, other than one old Amtrack railroad yard which, indeed, does look suspicious.  Without facts and/or references, you are simply spreading heresay, and, I must admit, it is heresay I am really getting tired of hearing without any tangible proof.

Also, you say this article was in the San Francisco Chronicle, yet you do not designate what date. Nor do you designate where your commentary ends and where the article begins. Nor do you clearly designate whether the title at the top is the title of the article or your title.

These things are important if you are going to relay valuable information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time and time and time and time again I have heard about these concentrations camps being built, and these shackled railcars, but no one ever comes up with any facts to back them up, other than one old Amtrack railroad yard which, indeed, does look suspicious.  Without facts and/or references, you are simply spreading heresay, and, I must admit, it is heresay I am really getting tired of hearing without any tangible proof.</p>
<p>Also, you say this article was in the San Francisco Chronicle, yet you do not designate what date. Nor do you designate where your commentary ends and where the article begins. Nor do you clearly designate whether the title at the top is the title of the article or your title.</p>
<p>These things are important if you are going to relay valuable information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quote of the Day: David Rockefeller on the New World Order by Maddog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who are bible believers, prophecies are getting revealed by the years. After all of this take place. Lucifer and his flunkies will eat dirt for eternity!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who are bible believers, prophecies are getting revealed by the years. After all of this take place. Lucifer and his flunkies will eat dirt for eternity!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on YouTube of the Day- JFK Secret Service told to Standdown by rebtl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed</description>
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		<title>Comment on YouTube of the Day- JFK Secret Service told to Standdown by Steve Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennedy was killed by people in the government starting with LBJ and probably Nixon-loving CIA.  The fatal shot came from the front.  I have shot too many guns and never had the target come back to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennedy was killed by people in the government starting with LBJ and probably Nixon-loving CIA.  The fatal shot came from the front.  I have shot too many guns and never had the target come back to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NWO prize pick set to take over America: Why Romney&#8217;s withdrawl will give HER the presidency by rebtl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You keep telling yourself that. I have documented proof too. 

1) He is in the CFR. That right there makes him part of the NWO. Period.

2) He works for lobbyists, and if you don&#039;t believe that you are just ignorant or in denial. 

3) If I remember correctly Mr. Smith was not a rich man in the movie, remind me again how many hundreds of millions Romney has? (aside from the $60 mil he spent on his own campaign because he couldn&#039;t get any one to donate to him aside from his lobbyists.)

I look forward to your article attempting to make Romney look like he is not a Washington insider. Be sure to send me a link to it when you write it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep telling yourself that. I have documented proof too. </p>
<p>1) He is in the CFR. That right there makes him part of the NWO. Period.</p>
<p>2) He works for lobbyists, and if you don&#8217;t believe that you are just ignorant or in denial. </p>
<p>3) If I remember correctly Mr. Smith was not a rich man in the movie, remind me again how many hundreds of millions Romney has? (aside from the $60 mil he spent on his own campaign because he couldn&#8217;t get any one to donate to him aside from his lobbyists.)</p>
<p>I look forward to your article attempting to make Romney look like he is not a Washington insider. Be sure to send me a link to it when you write it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NWO prize pick set to take over America: Why Romney&#8217;s withdrawl will give HER the presidency by joy steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>joy steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have so much to say I will have to post an artical.  Mitt Romney isn&#039;t playing their game.  That&#039;s why the good ol&#039; GOP boys were against him.  He was Mr. Smith going to Washington.  I have the documented proof of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have so much to say I will have to post an artical.  Mitt Romney isn&#8217;t playing their game.  That&#8217;s why the good ol&#8217; GOP boys were against him.  He was Mr. Smith going to Washington.  I have the documented proof of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Angry White Man by Job</title>
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		<dc:creator>Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you are a Ron Paul fan, check this out.

http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/suddenly-the-media-is-interested-in-ron-paul%e2%80%94at-least-in-his-congressional-seat-defeat/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you are a Ron Paul fan, check this out.</p>
<p><a href="http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/suddenly-the-media-is-interested-in-ron-paul%e2%80%94at-least-in-his-congressional-seat-defeat/" rel="nofollow">http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/suddenly-the-media-is-interested-in-ron-paul%e2%80%94at-least-in-his-congressional-seat-defeat/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Angry White Man by rebtl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I am very happy to hear you were a Ron Paul supporter. That is part of what makes him great is that his message appeals to so many people with VASTLY different views and yet they can all agree on the choice of Freedom. 

Another point, I couldn&#039;t care less why this guy wrote this article or if he believes it or not. If I like it what difference does it make. If he gets a book deal because of it good for him. 

The quote by John Stuart Mill is one of my favorites and we are just going to have to disagree on that. Though I would contest one thing you said about it.

You point out that it is Gods desire for you to protect the innocent and the helpless whenever you can. I completely agree. 

So, when you say:

“the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.” That plainly contradicts everything that the Bible says about the nature of God, and I am not unhappy to say so.

Why could he not mean having to do so to protect the innocent and helpless, which incidentally is certainly how I take the understanding of the quote, whether the author meant it that way or not. 

I am not going to try to write a huge response to your point about he New Deal and people today in political parties because for the most part I agree with it. Even though I know the whole point behind a left/right paradigm in American politics is just to keep the Sheeple concentrating on those issuses while the elites truly control everything. At a certain point on the power pyramid political party association stops mattering. 

&quot;I merely object to elevating the Constitution as equal to the Bible. I frequently hear and read people referring to the Constitution as “divinely inspired.” &quot;

I never said the Constitution was equal to the Bible. It certainly is not. 

The Bible was written by men, and they determined what was going to be in it. If you believe that their determination of the Bible was divinely inspired then you are certainly free to do so. I personally prefer to believe in God and Jesus and their message of goodness, but not base it solely on the exact words the Catholic church decided I should read. The elite control of the Catholic Church (not Catholic people) is one of the most evil empires in the history of the world. 

As for the Constitution being devinely inspired, it also certainly is not. The founding fathers were much more inspired by the Enlightenment Teachings of men like John Locke. 

&quot;many of the worst crimes against humanity have been done by people out of love for the state, especially when the state also represents and advances a particular religioius viewpoint&quot;

Again, I completely agree. America is not a free nation anymore, whatever anyone would lead you to believe. There is a group of globalist elites who control everything. 
You can choose not to believe that if you want but everyone is going to know how things really work, slowly but surely over the next 10-15 years. And all of these horrible things I am pointing out are being done in the name of &quot;The State&quot;, &quot;America&quot; &quot;The Homeland&quot;. Which is why people completely and utterly buy into it. 

What I do completely and utterly believe in are the Principles laid out in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Which if you check, coincide quite well with Bible. At least from my point of view. 

&quot;So why not just take a stand, represent what you truly believe in, and write a post where you declare Jesus Christ and His disciples and apostles to be insane people who did not represent actual Christianity.&quot;

Why would I do that, just because I choose not to believe every word literally that the Catholic Church from the crusades decided should be my religion doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t believe in Jesus or his teachings. 


Oh and as for your shot at the copy write laws, I put his Bi-line at the top of the article just as it appears in the Article. (Which in my experience is how you represent a newspaper article). Not to mention the fact that I never tried to take credit for the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I am very happy to hear you were a Ron Paul supporter. That is part of what makes him great is that his message appeals to so many people with VASTLY different views and yet they can all agree on the choice of Freedom. </p>
<p>Another point, I couldn&#8217;t care less why this guy wrote this article or if he believes it or not. If I like it what difference does it make. If he gets a book deal because of it good for him. </p>
<p>The quote by John Stuart Mill is one of my favorites and we are just going to have to disagree on that. Though I would contest one thing you said about it.</p>
<p>You point out that it is Gods desire for you to protect the innocent and the helpless whenever you can. I completely agree. </p>
<p>So, when you say:</p>
<p>“the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.” That plainly contradicts everything that the Bible says about the nature of God, and I am not unhappy to say so.</p>
<p>Why could he not mean having to do so to protect the innocent and helpless, which incidentally is certainly how I take the understanding of the quote, whether the author meant it that way or not. </p>
<p>I am not going to try to write a huge response to your point about he New Deal and people today in political parties because for the most part I agree with it. Even though I know the whole point behind a left/right paradigm in American politics is just to keep the Sheeple concentrating on those issuses while the elites truly control everything. At a certain point on the power pyramid political party association stops mattering. </p>
<p>&#8220;I merely object to elevating the Constitution as equal to the Bible. I frequently hear and read people referring to the Constitution as “divinely inspired.” &#8221;</p>
<p>I never said the Constitution was equal to the Bible. It certainly is not. </p>
<p>The Bible was written by men, and they determined what was going to be in it. If you believe that their determination of the Bible was divinely inspired then you are certainly free to do so. I personally prefer to believe in God and Jesus and their message of goodness, but not base it solely on the exact words the Catholic church decided I should read. The elite control of the Catholic Church (not Catholic people) is one of the most evil empires in the history of the world. </p>
<p>As for the Constitution being devinely inspired, it also certainly is not. The founding fathers were much more inspired by the Enlightenment Teachings of men like John Locke. </p>
<p>&#8220;many of the worst crimes against humanity have been done by people out of love for the state, especially when the state also represents and advances a particular religioius viewpoint&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, I completely agree. America is not a free nation anymore, whatever anyone would lead you to believe. There is a group of globalist elites who control everything.<br />
You can choose not to believe that if you want but everyone is going to know how things really work, slowly but surely over the next 10-15 years. And all of these horrible things I am pointing out are being done in the name of &#8220;The State&#8221;, &#8220;America&#8221; &#8220;The Homeland&#8221;. Which is why people completely and utterly buy into it. </p>
<p>What I do completely and utterly believe in are the Principles laid out in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Which if you check, coincide quite well with Bible. At least from my point of view. </p>
<p>&#8220;So why not just take a stand, represent what you truly believe in, and write a post where you declare Jesus Christ and His disciples and apostles to be insane people who did not represent actual Christianity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would I do that, just because I choose not to believe every word literally that the Catholic Church from the crusades decided should be my religion doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t believe in Jesus or his teachings. </p>
<p>Oh and as for your shot at the copy write laws, I put his Bi-line at the top of the article just as it appears in the Article. (Which in my experience is how you represent a newspaper article). Not to mention the fact that I never tried to take credit for the work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Angry White Man by Job</title>
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		<dc:creator>Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rebtl:

Taking your challenge and raising it: of course I am a Bible - thumping Christian. What else would you have me thump? The unchanging Word of God, or a Constitution that has been amended 27 times? 

And incidentally, I am not a pacifist. While I respect the notion that of certain Christians that perceive their beliefs to be based on a literal interpretation of the Bible, in truth the philosophy is immoral because it prevents a person from defending the innocent and the helpless. So &quot;&lt;i&gt;The person (thats you) who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself&lt;/i&gt;&quot; does not apply to me. And it was your own post which you uncritically endorsed the statement &quot;&lt;i&gt;the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him&lt;/i&gt;.&quot; That plainly contradicts everything that the Bible says about the nature of God, and I am not unhappy to say so. 

&quot;If you took 30 seconds to actually look at my Blog ...&quot;

If you took 15 seconds to look at mine, you would see that my views are basically libertarian. I was actually very enthusiastically supporting Ron Paul until very recently when I saw a Youtube video of him saying something that I grotesquely disagreed with. Now, did that surprise you? If not, then for your &quot;Jesse Jackson&quot; comments, go back and see my writings on Martin Luther King: http://healtheland.wordpress.com/category/martin-luther-king/

&quot;Your making the horrible assumption that we want any of those programs to exists at all.&quot; You specifically, not really. In case you failed to comprehend the prologue to my post, my comments were not directed at YOU but the majority of the political conservatives who support this type of stuff, which I point out AGAIN was a sham article written by a person who does not himself believe it but is instead exploiting the emotions of people like YOU to advance his writing career, and if it works and results in his getting a paying job or book deal somewhere, he will be laughing at folks like you all the way to the bank. But again, the vast majority of the American people had no problem with big government when it was the New Deal, because the benefits of the New Deal went almost exclusively to white people. As a matter of fact, the biggest core of New Deal supporters were &quot;conservative&quot; segregationist Democrats in the south and midwest. &quot;Small government&quot; was a fringe movement politically until the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the enactment of the Great Society. It was only MUCH LATER that conservatives recognized the hypocrisy of opposing the Great Society without opposing the New Deal. Most conservatives STILL do not spend nearly as much time talking about the New Deal as they do the Great Society. Why? Because most conservatives - like most liberals and most PEOPLE - are hypocrites. They want small government for the next guy but not for themselves. That is why you never hear virtually any of these people calling for the ending of public education, America&#039;s first universal welfare program (which by the way is for all intents and purposes COMPULSORY and the single most important component to the maintenance and growth of the welfare state because it indoctrinates generation after generation of our kids) because the vast majority of good conservatives send their kids to public schools, and quite frankly are convinced that they deserve &quot;excellent public schools&quot; because &quot;we are hard working Americans that make this country great.&quot; The vast majority of people who advocate abandoning public schools are - you guessed it - religious wackos like me, not the conservatives and libertarians in your movement. And if you don&#039;t believe me when I say that there was no real opposition to the New Deal until the political need to add it to opposition to the Great Society arose, read this article from a Libertarian Ron Paul supporter: http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north575.html

You can also read a book from a liberal author &quot;When Affirmative Action Was White&quot; http://books.google.com/books?id=cfhneJPcD38C&amp;dq=when+affirmative+action+was+white&amp;pg=PP1&amp;ots=v2B9Uzwpwi&amp;sig=QtIZL7TZySIMhfdSTOgWRiiYyc8&amp;hl=en&amp;prev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;q=when+affirmative+action+was+white&amp;btnG=Search&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=print&amp;ct=title&amp;cad=one-book-with-thumbnail
Rebtl, there is a reason why New Deal Democrats dominated politics for over 50 years, and why we have been able to virtually eliminate Great Society programs but pretty much haven&#039;t been able to touch the New Deal ones on the federal OR state level: there isn&#039;t the political support for it. The same people that are loathe to pay for public housing and food stamps have no problem with dumping grandma on the nursing home completely on the government&#039;s dime, or having the government publicly fund their kids&#039; education from preschool to postdoctorate. Now even if that doesn&#039;t include you personally, it includes a lot of people who agreed with a sham document written by some guy looking to exploit them to get a job without realizing that instead of pointing the finger at the next guy he needs to look in the mirror. That is why it is so easy to mention Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Hillary Clinton, because it ignores that 90% of &quot;conservatives&quot; would freak out and start rioting and turning over cars if the Social Security checks stopped coming and the public schools shut down to tomorrow too. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;No one is forcing you to live in America. Unfortunately it is sick demented people like you that are destroying our Constitution. If you don’t like the principles America was founded on then leave.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Tilting at windmills. I never declared myself to be a political subversive. I merely object to elevating the Constitution as equal to the Bible. I frequently hear and read people referring to the Constitution as &quot;divinely inspired.&quot; 

Patriotism? Anything past loving a place because that was where God chose to have you reside at a particular place in time is IDOLATRY. Worshiping a state or a place is IDOLATRY. And I am not unhappy to tell you so, especially since many of the worst crimes against humanity have been done by people out of love for the state, especially when the state also represents and advances a particular religioius viewpoint (which includes atheism). 

&quot;&lt;i&gt;The idea of someone who believes God is going to kill the majority of the world and only save the alleged “true believers” such as yourself is not exactly a Christian view, at least not in the sane world.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; Thank you for proving my point, which is that supporters of the document that you reproduced on your site (ever hear of copyright laws by the way Mr. Constitutionalist defender of property rights?) are not operating from a Biblical worldview. So why not just take a stand, represent what you truly believe in, and write a post where you declare Jesus Christ and His disciples and apostles to be insane people who did not represent actual Christianity. Then again, for all I know, you might have written such a post already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rebtl:</p>
<p>Taking your challenge and raising it: of course I am a Bible &#8211; thumping Christian. What else would you have me thump? The unchanging Word of God, or a Constitution that has been amended 27 times? </p>
<p>And incidentally, I am not a pacifist. While I respect the notion that of certain Christians that perceive their beliefs to be based on a literal interpretation of the Bible, in truth the philosophy is immoral because it prevents a person from defending the innocent and the helpless. So &#8220;<i>The person (thats you) who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself</i>&#8221; does not apply to me. And it was your own post which you uncritically endorsed the statement &#8220;<i>the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him</i>.&#8221; That plainly contradicts everything that the Bible says about the nature of God, and I am not unhappy to say so. </p>
<p>&#8220;If you took 30 seconds to actually look at my Blog &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If you took 15 seconds to look at mine, you would see that my views are basically libertarian. I was actually very enthusiastically supporting Ron Paul until very recently when I saw a Youtube video of him saying something that I grotesquely disagreed with. Now, did that surprise you? If not, then for your &#8220;Jesse Jackson&#8221; comments, go back and see my writings on Martin Luther King: <a href="http://healtheland.wordpress.com/category/martin-luther-king/" rel="nofollow">http://healtheland.wordpress.com/category/martin-luther-king/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Your making the horrible assumption that we want any of those programs to exists at all.&#8221; You specifically, not really. In case you failed to comprehend the prologue to my post, my comments were not directed at YOU but the majority of the political conservatives who support this type of stuff, which I point out AGAIN was a sham article written by a person who does not himself believe it but is instead exploiting the emotions of people like YOU to advance his writing career, and if it works and results in his getting a paying job or book deal somewhere, he will be laughing at folks like you all the way to the bank. But again, the vast majority of the American people had no problem with big government when it was the New Deal, because the benefits of the New Deal went almost exclusively to white people. As a matter of fact, the biggest core of New Deal supporters were &#8220;conservative&#8221; segregationist Democrats in the south and midwest. &#8220;Small government&#8221; was a fringe movement politically until the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the enactment of the Great Society. It was only MUCH LATER that conservatives recognized the hypocrisy of opposing the Great Society without opposing the New Deal. Most conservatives STILL do not spend nearly as much time talking about the New Deal as they do the Great Society. Why? Because most conservatives &#8211; like most liberals and most PEOPLE &#8211; are hypocrites. They want small government for the next guy but not for themselves. That is why you never hear virtually any of these people calling for the ending of public education, America&#8217;s first universal welfare program (which by the way is for all intents and purposes COMPULSORY and the single most important component to the maintenance and growth of the welfare state because it indoctrinates generation after generation of our kids) because the vast majority of good conservatives send their kids to public schools, and quite frankly are convinced that they deserve &#8220;excellent public schools&#8221; because &#8220;we are hard working Americans that make this country great.&#8221; The vast majority of people who advocate abandoning public schools are &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; religious wackos like me, not the conservatives and libertarians in your movement. And if you don&#8217;t believe me when I say that there was no real opposition to the New Deal until the political need to add it to opposition to the Great Society arose, read this article from a Libertarian Ron Paul supporter: <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north575.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north575.html</a></p>
<p>You can also read a book from a liberal author &#8220;When Affirmative Action Was White&#8221; <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=cfhneJPcD38C&amp;dq=when+affirmative+action+was+white&amp;pg=PP1&amp;ots=v2B9Uzwpwi&amp;sig=QtIZL7TZySIMhfdSTOgWRiiYyc8&amp;hl=en&amp;prev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;q=when+affirmative+action+was+white&amp;btnG=Search&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=print&amp;ct=title&amp;cad=one-book-with-thumbnail" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=cfhneJPcD38C&amp;dq=when+affirmative+action+was+white&amp;pg=PP1&amp;ots=v2B9Uzwpwi&amp;sig=QtIZL7TZySIMhfdSTOgWRiiYyc8&amp;hl=en&amp;prev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;q=when+affirmative+action+was+white&amp;btnG=Search&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=print&amp;ct=title&amp;cad=one-book-with-thumbnail</a><br />
Rebtl, there is a reason why New Deal Democrats dominated politics for over 50 years, and why we have been able to virtually eliminate Great Society programs but pretty much haven&#8217;t been able to touch the New Deal ones on the federal OR state level: there isn&#8217;t the political support for it. The same people that are loathe to pay for public housing and food stamps have no problem with dumping grandma on the nursing home completely on the government&#8217;s dime, or having the government publicly fund their kids&#8217; education from preschool to postdoctorate. Now even if that doesn&#8217;t include you personally, it includes a lot of people who agreed with a sham document written by some guy looking to exploit them to get a job without realizing that instead of pointing the finger at the next guy he needs to look in the mirror. That is why it is so easy to mention Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Hillary Clinton, because it ignores that 90% of &#8220;conservatives&#8221; would freak out and start rioting and turning over cars if the Social Security checks stopped coming and the public schools shut down to tomorrow too. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;No one is forcing you to live in America. Unfortunately it is sick demented people like you that are destroying our Constitution. If you don’t like the principles America was founded on then leave.&#8221;</i> Tilting at windmills. I never declared myself to be a political subversive. I merely object to elevating the Constitution as equal to the Bible. I frequently hear and read people referring to the Constitution as &#8220;divinely inspired.&#8221; </p>
<p>Patriotism? Anything past loving a place because that was where God chose to have you reside at a particular place in time is IDOLATRY. Worshiping a state or a place is IDOLATRY. And I am not unhappy to tell you so, especially since many of the worst crimes against humanity have been done by people out of love for the state, especially when the state also represents and advances a particular religioius viewpoint (which includes atheism). </p>
<p>&#8220;<i>The idea of someone who believes God is going to kill the majority of the world and only save the alleged “true believers” such as yourself is not exactly a Christian view, at least not in the sane world.</i>&#8221; Thank you for proving my point, which is that supporters of the document that you reproduced on your site (ever hear of copyright laws by the way Mr. Constitutionalist defender of property rights?) are not operating from a Biblical worldview. So why not just take a stand, represent what you truly believe in, and write a post where you declare Jesus Christ and His disciples and apostles to be insane people who did not represent actual Christianity. Then again, for all I know, you might have written such a post already.</p>
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		<description>The link-back above is a great example of what we are fighting against. (Not that I am not a Chirstian). Sick people like that who do not believe in America or the Constitution. 

(Best get a puke bag ready before you read that)

If you find yourself agreeing with many things said on that review of the article, you probably have nothing to find on my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link-back above is a great example of what we are fighting against. (Not that I am not a Chirstian). Sick people like that who do not believe in America or the Constitution. </p>
<p>(Best get a puke bag ready before you read that)</p>
<p>If you find yourself agreeing with many things said on that review of the article, you probably have nothing to find on my site.</p>
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